A Melbourne teenager who allegedly laughed and joked after fatally wounding David Cassai on New Year's Eve has been refused bail.
Today, police told Melbourne Magistrates Court witnesses suggested Dylan John Closter, 18, had laughed and said "that's what we're here for" as he walked away from an unconscious Mr Cassai.
He then allegedly physically assaulted Mr Cassai and hit him three times, causing him to lose consciousness.
Closter was charged with manslaughter on Wednesday.
Today, police told Melbourne Magistrates Court witnesses suggested Dylan John Closter, 18, had laughed and said "that's what we're here for" as he walked away from an unconscious Mr Cassai.
He then allegedly physically assaulted Mr Cassai and hit him three times, causing him to lose consciousness.
Closter was charged with manslaughter on Wednesday.
What concerns me about the above events is the callousness of the alleged act. Why do we, as a society, put up with characters such as this alleged mongrel?
In a strange perverted way, I can understand an argument at a party, someone goes out of control, pushes another person, that person falls over and hits his head on concrete and dies. The end result possibly couldn't be anticipated. Any violence is abhorrent, and usually someone will get hurt to some extent. In an instance like this, I don't think anyone sets out to cause serious harm to anyone, possibly just rough them up a bit, with unfortunate consequences.
What I really get pissed off is with people who go out looking for fights. You only have to go out to Hindley Street here in Adelaide and see the bogans drunkenly stomping around on the footpath just waiting for any excuse to have a go at someone.
In my opinion, anyone who is deliberately out to look for a fight, should have the book thrown at them extra hard. Like many others, I'm sick of these bogan arseholes in our society. If you were in Venezuela, after being found guilty, they'd just be taken outside and shot.
Whilst I don't subscribe to shooting them, why do we pander to these people with 'do gooder' excuses of a poor upbringing, broken home blah blah blah. And then to laugh and joke after you've just committed a gross act of violence is enough in my books to earn this alleged killer an additional 5 years in jail.
Stick them in jail with hard labour just like used to be done (and is still done in many countries), except of course in Australia, where you've got all the red tape of safe work practices, can't lift over 15Kg blah blah.
If I was a judge or magistrate, everyone of these (violence seeking) bogans would get maximum jail time. Tough Luck. Maybe when you get out of jail, you might think twice before going out looking for a fight.
Closter, in my opinion, if found guilty, should get a minimum of 20 years jail time. Give him time to reflect on his life and his bad life choice decision.
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Addendum 04/01/2013
I have to agree with all the people who have left comments, and thank you for those comments. I've seen the pictures of Dylan Closters' father and friends leaving court .. geez.. they look like a motley lot. I think you can tell a lot about a person who calls women 'bitches' on his Facebook page. It might sound all black American and trendy, but in the end, just shows you the disrespect this bogan has for women and society in general.
I agree also that prison life will probably make him an even worse person, but what can you do. If he's found guilty, do you just want to smack him on the wrist because you don't want to send him to prison? At the end of the day, he is a product of his upbringing, and unfortunately society has to put up with this trash!
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Addendum 04/01/2013
I have to agree with all the people who have left comments, and thank you for those comments. I've seen the pictures of Dylan Closters' father and friends leaving court .. geez.. they look like a motley lot. I think you can tell a lot about a person who calls women 'bitches' on his Facebook page. It might sound all black American and trendy, but in the end, just shows you the disrespect this bogan has for women and society in general.
I agree also that prison life will probably make him an even worse person, but what can you do. If he's found guilty, do you just want to smack him on the wrist because you don't want to send him to prison? At the end of the day, he is a product of his upbringing, and unfortunately society has to put up with this trash!
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Punishment should fit the crime, beat the cowardly sod to death. Do the same with any of the serious assault/murder cases.
ReplyDeletePerpetuate violence upon violence.......genius solution.
Deletewhy isn't there someone prepared to go into politics to represent the honest law abiding silent majority , not the vocal minority scum supported by human rights activists and lawyers who's only motive is money
ReplyDeleteWhich human rights activists support idiotic bogan culture?
DeleteBogans tend to be an underclass supported by right wingers. Much like Labor and the Greens support unsavoury elements from immigration (violent Africans or Islamic religious nuts). Bogans are a votebank for the Liberals.
If you want law and order you aren't going to get it from Labor/Greens or the Liberals. What this country needs is an elite right wing party. A reactionary, pro-order, pro-intellectual political movement that eschews the moron, flag-wearing bogan crowd.
One of Dylan Closter's Facebook likes is "fuck reading." This is what a subset of Western Civilization has become. An illiterate, tattooed violent mob of whites that probably can't name several ideas from Western Civilization, nor read, nor do mathematics, nor do anything else that our history has produced. Instead, they drape themselves with a flag, lift weights, get drunk, and punch the shit out of people.
These people need to go.
You may notice too that the alleged offender has a lack of respect for women by calling them all bitches on his facebook page. His goal in life is to grow a mullett, a type of hairdo from the 80s, which is short at the sides and long at the back. He thinks girls like these...... He will come to appreciate books in prison. Those who don't read don't learn so whenever he stopped reading was when his IQ ceased. He has obviously never read that "one punch can kill" It's in the newspapers every day. That punching on TV is make believe. That hitting someone actually does maime them and they don't get up like they do on TV. That it ends a life, causes sadness for 100 more and ruins your own life, your future and your family's life who have to visit you in prison. Or they don't. I wouldn't. What a sad piece of vermin he is. You would think they know by now that every movement is captured on cctv. Not just where the offence happened but an hour before and an hour afterwards or two days before or two weeks before. That's how they nailed the alleged murderer of Jill Meagher. It was the half hour before he struck that nailed who he was and not the footage at the store. You are always in the frame somewhere whether it be at a station or walking down the street. You WILL get caught as all footage is stored electronically "for months". Notice the tattoo covered bogan friends at court and the Father, complete with said "mullett" and scruffy biker beard. I was expecting a clean cut man in a suit when he said his son had never done anything wrong. But pictures tell a thousand words. The father is bogan and unfortunately this scum is allowed to breed and produce offspring like the maggot his son is and the whole cycle continues.
DeleteWho are you to judge. Have you not heard of the saying 'Dont judge a book by its cover'. And to judge Dylans father is disgraceful. He has been a wonderful father and is much loved by everyone in the community. And just because Dylan had a reading disability doesnt mean he gets put in the category of having no iq, my son also went to primary school with dylan and had reading difficulties, and the amount of time and effort these boys had to put in to learn was absolutely amazing and a credit to them.
Delete'Who are you to judge'......someone who hasn't taken another person's life. And perhaps he should have read some books on philosophy and morality so as to see what acting like a decent human being involves rather than looking to hit someone. Pure scum.
DeleteHave a look at the bloke who was the road rage perpetrator south of Brisbane. Easy to find his name and look up his Myspace profile.
ReplyDeleteAn absolute bogan who falls in the same category as Mr Closter. All these people need to be voted off the island.
A stint in jail and he'll come out 10X worse than he went in.
ReplyDeleteBring back the rope.
Yes, it may have come to that - a need to execute these violent time bombs.
DeleteUnfortunately "the rope" costs more than 25 years prison as appeals cost millions. Agreed he will come out worse than when he went in. He doesn't like "books" so he wont be anything except a gutless, cowardly, yellow bellied, illiterate, nobody when he gets out which is pretty much what he is going in.
DeleteDylan Closter's facebook page has now been deleted, or put on private.
ReplyDeleteNo it hasn't. I just googled it.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.facebook.com/public/Dylan-Closter
I say bring the rope back, make these "bogan" arseholes think twice before doing these insane acts of cruelty, if they cant adapt to our way of living they might as well die!
ReplyDeleteI do agree with a lot of the above comments, but the perpetrator is just a kid. What to do with these young people? The problems, often caused by bad parenting, lack of opportunity, etc., must start so early. And no, the death penalty is not the answer!
ReplyDeleteOur sentencing needs to get tougher with these drunks as there is no deterrent. We should all be able to walk the streets in peace, they are my rights and anyone else that has lost a child because of this senseless violence. He was a big hero at the time of the punching, he should have thought about it before, freedom comes with responsility and he is responsible for a death of an innocent person. You make your bed now lie in it. No second chances for David.
ReplyDeleteAll I see on here are people who are pushing for death penalties and stereo typing not only Dylan but his family and friends. The result of Dylans actions caused a young man to lose his life and I totally understand the anger from David's family and friends but alot of people are judging and making their opionions soley based on what Dylan, his family and friends look like. Firstly, just because his father has a 'biker beard' you can't automatically say he is a bogan or assume he is a bad father. I know many people who choose to have a beard because they like it. A persons hair style or facial hair style does not determine whether a man is a good person on not and I would think very little of person who would judge some soley based on that. 2nd- His tattoo covered bogan friends- 1 in 10 people are believed to have tattooes in Australia, does that make 10% of our population thugs and bogans? I myself have several tattooes and I can say I am not a bogan nor a thug. Our generation see tattooes as art and a way to express emotions and feelings through body art and many of them have personal reasons or meanings behind them. It is a persons CHOICE to have tattooes and they shouldn't be labelled a 'criminal', 'thug' or 'bogan' purely based on their appearance.
ReplyDeleteI also think everyone should stop for a minute and think- Has anyone in my family or any of my friends punch someone before? I thought about this and my answer was yes. Anyone of those people who jumped to mind when you asked yourself that question could just as easily be in Dylan's position. And while the media have reported that it was an unprovoked attack none of us were there, we can't just assume that what is reported is correct. People have turned this into a trial my media by making remarks about Dylan's appearance being scruffy and commenting on the clothes he was wearing. My 17 year brothers hair is alway scruffy and he doesn't shave unless he is going out. Boys are just like that.
Now this is the part that will make my comments seem biased- I have know Dylan since he was in grade 3. He has been friends with my brother since then. I do not for a second say that he is innocent or doesn't deserve to be punished because I too, just like everyone else commenting don't know exactly what happened that night. What I can say is his fathers comments are true. Dylan is not a bad kid, he has made a mistake that he will have to live with for the rest of his life. Dylans friends wanted to show support for their mate at his court hearing because he is not a bad person, a bit rough around the edges maybe but he has a heart of gold.
If I was a family member or friend of Davids I would want to see Dylan punished for causing his death but I think it's unfair for people to be 'bashing' his family and friends in the media and on pages like this because of what they look like, its rediculous and if you were to meet these people you would learn quickly that they are all nice people.
I can't say why Dylan punched David all I know is Dylan is a great friend, son, brother and grandchild. He made a choice that night that ended tragically and will suffer for the rest of his life because of it. Its easy for people to say his family and friends must be bogans or thugs to but please remember that this a horrible situation for everyone. It's not fair for people to be judging his family and friends and assuming they must all be bad people because of this, they weren't there, they didn't tell Dylan to go fight. It has nothing to do with them and it certainly is not a reflection on way he was raised. All I ask is people stop assuming that his family and friends are thugs, they didn't play any part it his actions and should not be brutalised because of it.
Only the judge can decide what punishment he deserves after hearing all the evidence.
Ask ourselves if any of our friends or family punched someone?
DeleteI did; the answer is no.
Not a reflection of the way he was raised?
You might wish it wasn't, but it most definitely is.
He wil have to live with it for the rest of his life?
He gets to live unlike his poor victim.
Oh I know the closter lot and they are the violent thug bogan scum everyone is imagining them to be.
DeleteWell, ins response "a great friend, son, brother and grandchild" doesn't go around punching random people on the street.
DeleteEverything you have written is an attempt to deflect what Dylan represents, a violent-underclass of men who believe it is okay to walk around punching people for no reason.
Though I have not seem Dylan for over 8 mths I would say this about him. He is / was a caring and sensitive kid who comes from a loving family and community enviroment. Yes he does have reading difficulties but has always had respect for Adults and women. If you scan every 18 year olds facebook you would wanna lock em all up.
ReplyDeleteChrismas Eve he helped put the shopping in the car of a lady I know and gave her a hug and wished her merry xmas.
Up until about a year ago he spent much time in our family home and was a delight to have around.
He had been used and exploited by various employers at an early age but never gave up until he finally found a job with a future.He could of easily gone on the dole but never did. He was always puntual and has a great work ethic.
At some point recently the people he associated with changed and have influenced his life somewhat. These same associates are much older (the others charged)and are mostly known to the authorities.
The incident is tragic and he needs to be accountable , but do not assume he is a bogan thug from a poor unbringing and make judgements based on how the media reports and portrays what they choose too. If you saw a picture of the scared 18 year old and compared it to the so called "artists" sketch of what appears to be a 30 year old hardened thug as in a recent paper ,you gotta wonder about the artists talents and intentions.
He will pay for what has happened , he will pay now and in the future. I would be confident that he will Never be involved in an incident like this again at any point in the future. The same cannot be said for the other older guys he was with, as they will walk the streets with the same sick attitude they have always had and just find someone else to do their dirty work for them again. They should name ALL involed in this incident so we can all be aware of the dangers that will still be at large on our streets.
Bla bla bla bla we were all 18 once and we do not run around bashing people. I don't care who's shopping he put in the car. I acted very different when I was 18 around friends parents and adults. He is a cold blooded killer that should get what he deserves. If he likes to call women bitches then he will learn what that is in prision to be someone's bitch. Only wish I was there to view that CCTV footage. THE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR MURDERING SOMEONE!!!!!
DeleteI totally get your point though. Dylan's mates are the malevolent ones, they are older, manipulative and sadistic. Dylan was just one of those types who requires the approval of agressive males (who possibly remind him of his own father) to make him feel secure and "ok" about himself. Deep down he knows he's weak and less than a man. His own bogan father has probably hinted as much as he was growing up. So little dylan gets easily coerced and hits someone to prove himself and get that approval. Do you know where else he will find lots of strong agressive men waiting to make him prove himself? Yep that's right, a prison cell. And I'm sure he's just kind of boy to please them well.
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ReplyDeleteNot that you are proving the authors original point obviously...........A well reasoned argument will have a stronger resonance (see the eloquent defence made two posts above your illiterate rant) than a bogan spray. That is part of the problem though isn't it my underclass friend, you can't argue with words because you are simply unable, so you resort to actual or desired violence against those you disagree with. Forgive us for wanting your kind humanely sterilised.
Deleteyes dylan closter is in the wrong but for people to be saying he should be executed is fucking discusting . if anyone actually knew the story they would know that david cassai actually started a fight earlier in the evening .. dylan should have had a little more sense than to go after david .
ReplyDeletedylans family is a good family . he is not a bogan , yes he may refer women as bitches but honestly it doesnt mean any disrespect , its a joke . if you take offence then thats youre own call but he is an amazing kid and he never ment to kill him .
Yep, this was predicted in the book The Bell Curve years ago. An illiterate criminal class of low IQ bogans has arisen to whom violence is actually considered cool and they will eventually need to be cut off from the rest of society to protect the decent and intelligent population. That day can't come soon enough.
ReplyDeleteAs said, with freedom comes responsibilities and I dont know how many times it has been ingrained that one punch kills -- there are no more excuses and we are sick of hearing them. Justice needs to be served! Coming out with the intent to fight is not manslaughter -- its MURDER!!
ReplyDeleteTeach your children well........
While the situation at hand is absolutely terrible, we need to all understand that accidents do happen. Dylan does need to pay the penalty for his actions, however as a close family friend of Dylans I would like to point out that not everything in the media is the gods honest truth. And although I'm sure there will be many of you ready to fight me on this, I am here top tell you thay Dylan was not out looking for fights, and certainly did not walk away laughing. Once again I'm not defending his actions, just attempting to inform all those who are reading the articles that he is not a terrible evil person, just a silly young boy who made a mistake and will spend the rest of his life reliving it.
ReplyDeletehey "close friend of dylans family", punching someone in the head deliberately is not a mistake, it's a deliberate act of callous aggression. It was aimed at causing harm and it did that. It killed someone who was dearly loved. Do you GET THAT!?! do you? One day maybe you will, maybe one day when you have a kid who YOU'VE spent years of sleepless nights looking after, bathing them, years of planning their birthday parties and talking to them and watching them grow. Only to see SOME TOOL erase them from the face of the planet for the sheer hell of it. Would you defend that guy? do yourself a massive favour and get yourself a new set of friends pal. you need to think about it seriously.
Deletelets hope they just kill themselves in prison after being gang ass fucked.
ReplyDeletehey "close friend of dylans family", punching someone in the head deliberately is not a mistake, it's a deliberate act of callous aggression. It was aimed at causing harm and it did that. It killed someone who was dearly loved. Do you GET THAT!?! do you? One day maybe you will, maybe one day when you have a kid who YOU'VE spent years of sleepless nights looking after, bathing them, years of planning their birthday parties and talking to them and watching them grow. Only to see SOME TOOL erase them from the face of the planet for the sheer hell of it. Would you defend that guy? do yourself a massive favour and get yourself a new set of friends pal. you need to think about it seriously.
ReplyDeleteThe little evil sod will get his in jail bigtime
ReplyDeleteWhy would you say that?
DeleteHave you been to jail before?
How would you know what experience Dylan will have in Jail?
This behaivour has been going on for a long time i know because this particular gang king hit my own son two years ago and as a mother i was told thats what they do i was horrified his hit was from behind unprovoked and my son would not go to the police with me because of the repercussions which i did not understand until things were explained eventually something like this was going to happen and you know what i am sick of people making excuses for whats happened
ReplyDeleteThis behaivour has been going on for a long time i know because this particular gang king hit my own son two years ago and as a mother i was told thats what they do i was horrified his hit was from behind unprovoked and my son would not go to the police with me because of the repercussions which i did not understand until things were explained eventually something like this was going to happen and you know what i am sick of people making excuses for whats happened
ReplyDeleteI believe you are all judging some one on the picture that the media has painted of Dylan Closter.
ReplyDeleteDidnt your parents teach you dont judge some one based on looks or one side of an argument?
I know Dylan is remourceful, he is a sincere young person who has made a mistake.
And as for his friends leaving court? Grow up. You believe these young people are bogans based on a picture? You have never met them, nor know anything about them.
Dylans dad is not a bogan, how you can judge some one for having tattoos or a beard is beyond me.
Did you know that Winston Churchill had tattoos? If you are that uneducated to know that he was a former prime minister and won a nobel prize.
Get two sides of the story, and dont judge a person on their looks, or looks of friends. How petty.
Er he is being judged because he killed someone. If Winston Churchill went out in Charing Cross and needlessly hit someone and killed them, yes he is a mindless and violent bogan.
DeleteYou want to see how a person should react, that other scumbag Kieran Loverdidge actually attacked a Mua Thai champion before he hit Thomas Kelly. The fact this guy didn't absolutely destroy the git speaks volumes for his respect and self-control, because no matter how tough-guy Loverdige thinks he is, he wouldn't stand a chance against a trained fighter. In fact, it probably would have served society better if the first victim had of ended the attacks right then and there, but he actually knew better.
Dylan is a fucking idiot.
ReplyDeleteI have spoken to a few people that know Dylan personally, and this kid has been doing this constantly for years. Always picking fights and hitting innocent people, he is an idiot and deserves the book thrown at him. This was a long time coming, and no matter how many times he was told not to, he kept doing it.
ReplyDeleteWell justice will be served, no more warnings, as he spends a long time in jail. Should have been charged with murder.
This case needs to be made an example that we dont want these thugs on our streets anymore.
I too have spoken to people that know Dylan & was told he & his friends go out all the time & start fights. Lets hope that what has happened is a lesson to Dylan & his mates & yes i know his parents they are lovely people.... But i believe he needs to spend time in prison to make a statement to all young & old people out there, That punching is not the answer just walk away because nobody wins in all of this RIP David xx
ReplyDeleteLet's bump this. This murderer should be doing several years of hard time. He pleaded guilty to assault today. If this guy harms one more person, it's one too many. Jill Meagher is dead after her murderer raped about a dozen other women. What was that animal doing with the rest of us? It's time to get tougher on this scum.
ReplyDeleteEveryone is ok with crucifying a convicted criminal until that person is your son or daughter. It starts with parenting and if you think that any of this is about anything else you are wrong. We no longer teach our children human values and we don't enforce or demand good behavior. As well, we do not show our children the consequences of their actions, whether good or bad. This is really what happens when the village raises the child.
ReplyDeleteGet your FACTS straight before making a ill-informed media hyped up, slanderous FICTIONAL typed up garbage such as this !! The INNOCENT sit behind bars who acted in SELF DEFENSE against raging iced up youths! Dylan IS a AWESOME young adult! Get the toxicology results, get the ENTIRE CCTV footage not the bit starting from when Dylan was getting up from the ground after being kicked n punched by David n his 'mates' even while he was down. This entire case makes my blood boil. And hearing half wits like you media loving sheep have a go at a boy that was trying to defend himself n being pushed down further makes me sick! I hope none of you are ever set upon by ice'd up raging youths! GET A LIFE AND STOP SLANDERING DYLANS AND HIS FAMILY!
ReplyDeleteplease post a link to this additional evidence. Otherwise you just seem incredibly bias as you try to defend a murderer.
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